R2K or not, Republicans are still nuts

Posted by admin | Posted in Politics | Posted on 30-06-2010-05-2008


One of the more bizarre plot lines emerging from this R2K fiasco is that conservatives think our wingnut poll from January is discredited. That was the poll that found that a significant number of Republicans were birthers, wanted Obama impeached, etc.

Conservative protestations about that poll were always bizarre, since their messaging has strongly pushed those beliefs, but whatever. It was clear that they want to believe those things, but they don’t want anyone to know they believe those things.

And so they rejoice with the downfall of Research 2000, because it proves they aren’t as crazy as the world thinks they are! But of course, our polling wasn’t the only polling that exposed the modern conservative movement’s craziness.

Public Policy Polling:

While I’d agree that Research 2000’s poll may have been bogus, I would not agree it means Republicans don’t think those things. We have polled on many of the same issue over the last year and in some cases found even more Republicans buying into some of those conspiracy theories. For instance:

-In September we found only 37% of Republicans believed Barack Obama was born in the United States while 42% think he was not and 22% were unsure. Those numbers actually showed a higher birther quotient than the discredited R2K numbers that claimed 42% of Republicans believed Obama was born in the country while 36% thought he was not, and 22% were unsure.

-In November we found 52% of Republicans thought ACORN stole the 2008 Presidential election for Barack Obama while 27% thought he legitimately won it and 21% were unsure. That again showed a much higher level of belief in election fraud than the R2K numbers that claimed 21% of Republicans believed the election was stolen while 24% thought it was not and 55% were unsure.

-In December we found 35% of Republicans thought Barack Obama should be impeached while 48% thought he should not be and 17% were unsure. The Research 2000 poll claimed a similar, although slightly higher, level of support for impeachment from Republicans with 39% favoring it, 32% opposed, and 29% not sure.

Would I be leery of the Research 2000 findings on some of these extremist Republican views? Absolutely. But other pollsters have found the same thing. The discrediting of R2K doesn’t change the fact that many GOP voters do subscribe to these unproven conspiracy theories.


67 percent of Republicans (and 40 percent of Americans overall) believe that Obama is a socialist.

57 percent of Republicans (32 percent overall) believe that Obama is a Muslim

45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers in their belief that Obama was “not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president”

38 percent of Republicans (20 percent overall) say that Obama is “doing many of the things that Hitler did”
Scariest of all, 24 percent of Republicans (14 percent overall) say that Obama “may be the Antichrist.”

ABC News:

Fourteen percent of Americans say without prompting that they think Barack Obama was born in another country, rising to one in five when those with no opinion are offered that as a possibility. But for many it’s not a firm belief – and some appear not to hold it against him […]

In addition to Obama disapprovers, people who are more apt than others to say Obama was born in another country include conservatives, Republicans, supporters of the Tea Party political movement (31 percent in each group), evangelical white Protestants (33 percent), and supporters of John McCain in 2008 (30 percent) – all groups broadly critical of Obama.

Vanity Fair-60 Minutes:

Long after the question of President Obama’s birthplace should have been put to rest, a new poll shows that nearly one in four Americans believe the “birther” lunacy that the president was born outside the country. The Vanity Fair/60 Minutes poll found that 24 percent of respondents think Obama was born outside the U.S., with six percent saying he was born in Kenya, another two percent choosing Indonesia, and the remainder being unsure of his exact foreign origins.

Conservatives can hope that all these polling outfits are found out to be frauds as well, or just accept that their base is buying the crap they’re selling. If they want to scream about Obama being illegitimate, then maybe people will believe that Obama is illegitimate.

And rather than be embarrassed about it, they should own it.

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